Transcript You may have noticed that this podcast doesn’t have any intro music or music at all, but at the same time I run a business...

It wouldn't be a Joe Chris show without a little chaos and impulsivity, so here's an unplanned, unscripted, and unproduced podcast I recorded in one take at 1:15 am, talking about creativity as a playbox vs creativity towards a goal.

Today we interview Francois Tetaz, the composer behind "The Surfer" and also the engineer from Gotye's "Somebody that I used to Know". We talk how he got started, balancing the career between scoring and engineering, writing music for films, dance, and so much more.